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sheldonsmith
01.06.2009, 02:19
g340 posted his experience of having a GMT-C bezel insert falling out of his watch at an airport security check. He sent me the images to post on his behalf and here are the thumbnails. Larger versions of the images are posted at http://www.minus4plus6.com/photos/photo34.htm#ceramic


Has anyone else had or heard of this on other GMT-C's. Was there a resolution other than having an RSC address it.


http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/GMTCBezel/tn_watchbezel.jpg
Here's the watch head and the ceramic bezel that fell out. Good thing g340 found it before it broke.

http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/GMTCBezel/tn_watchhead.jpg
Here is a close up of the watch head and the bezel sans insert

http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/GMTCBezel/tn_bezelinsert.jpg
Here is the insert

http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/GMTCBezel/tn_insertunderside.jpg
... and the insert underside...

I look forward to reading about the resolution after this watch visits the AD and the RSC. No doubt a local watchmaker can fix this insert.

http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/bezelschematic.jpg

Here a schematic of the assembly for reference. The .pdf of the schematic posted in the US patent document is posted at http://www.minus4plus6.com/pdf/GMTII-SUBBezel.pdf

-Sheldon

Hannes
01.06.2009, 07:24
8o


Please keep us updated.

Edmundo
01.06.2009, 08:05
8o so the gmt-c is not for the use at the airport. ;)

Moehf
01.06.2009, 08:09
i just went through Airport control :D
Bezel stayed inside.

Interessant aber dennoch, dass die Einlage wohl nur eingepresst ist, also kein Kleinkram drunter, der rausfallen könnte, so wie das ausschaut...

Kalle
01.06.2009, 08:20
Die anderen Bilder auf der Seite sind auch nicht übel 8o

Thanks for sharing these pics ;)

Edmundo
01.06.2009, 08:24
Original von Moehf
i just went through Airport control :D
Bezel stayed inside.


Fake!

AndreasL
01.06.2009, 08:27
8o 8o Please keep us informed :gut:

[Dents]Milchschnitte
01.06.2009, 08:50
8o

Mmmmh.

PCS
01.06.2009, 10:17
8o

pelue
01.06.2009, 10:51
Thanks, Sheldon. Very interesting. Please keep us in the loop.

Seems that the inlay is rather glued to the bezel than pressed. At least what I can see from the pictures. :grb:

Charles.
01.06.2009, 11:02
The security check was the last part of a intensive story. Look at the condition of the bracelet. The watch didn't came out 30 years ago!
How did you "use" that watch before you did reach finally the airport???

http://www.minus4plus6.com/photos/photo34.htm#ceramic

Coney
01.06.2009, 11:38
Original von Charles.Look at the condition of the bracelet. The watch didn't came out 30 years ago!
How did you "use" that watch before you did reach finally the airport??

It's not a PTM's bracelet for sure - but it still looks fine to me.

newyork
01.06.2009, 12:05
What the f** 8o.....

Charles.
01.06.2009, 12:12
Ich habe übrigens noch nie eine Keramiklünette abgenommen. Ich kann nicht sagen, wie was genau aussieht...

[Dents]Milchschnitte
01.06.2009, 13:35
Original von Charles.
The security check was the last part of a intensive story. Look at the condition of the bracelet. The watch didn't came out 30 years ago!
How did you "use" that watch before you did reach finally the airport???

http://www.minus4plus6.com/photos/photo34.htm#ceramic

Sorry Charles - but the marks in the pictures are mostly fingerprints and smears.

potz
01.06.2009, 17:08
Originally posted by pelue
Thanks, Sheldon. Very interesting. Please keep us in the loop.

Seems that the inlay is rather glued to the bezel than pressed. At least what I can see from the pictures. :grb:

I'd imagine gluing would be the only way of fixing the bezel as ceramics would probably not take a pressure fit without breaking or splintering.

ehemaliges mitglied
01.06.2009, 17:38
wie kann die lünette denn einfach so rausfallen :grb:



http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/broken/brokendatejust.jpg

http://www.minus4plus6.com/images/broken/brokendatejustb.jpg

hoffentlich passiert mir das nie =(

sheldonsmith
01.06.2009, 18:02
He is going to take it to a Rolex Service Center in NY. If it is fake, they will tell him on the spot... The owner indicated that he purchased the watch last November. Let's sure hope that it is not a fake...

-Sheldon


Originally posted by elmar2001

Original von Moehf
i just went through Airport control :D
Bezel stayed inside.


Fake!

Edmundo
01.06.2009, 18:03
No, I ment the other watch is fake because the bezel did not fell out at the airport ;)

[Dents]Milchschnitte
01.06.2009, 18:09
Original von elmar2001
No, I ment the other watch is fake because the bezel did not fell out at the airport ;)

Great stuff - I got you the first time!

hpl
01.06.2009, 19:48
-Sheldon


Originally posted by elmar2001
[quote]Original von Moehf
i just went through Airport control :D
Bezel stayed inside.


Fake!

Neeee sechsstellig (six-digit reference) - what did you expect? :twisted:

Bling Bling halt :D


hpl

fiumagyar
02.06.2009, 07:46
please what 8o

sheldonsmith
04.06.2009, 04:02
g340 reported today that he dropped off his GMT-C with the New York RSC who indicated "they have seen situations like this before, but that it is uncommon."

The watch will be mailed back to him. If there are "after" pictures, I will post them.

-Sheldon

[Dents]Milchschnitte
04.06.2009, 14:43
Does not seem to be a toolwatch anymore-----too sad.

Good thing ´bout the old scapmetal inserts is that you can replace them yourself for a couple of bucks. I hope they resolve the problem but I guess we will see pictures like these quite frequently in the future as more and more of the ceramic bezeled watches come into circulation.

pelue
23.07.2009, 17:24
Hi Sheldon,

any news on this topic? ;)

sheldonsmith
23.07.2009, 19:40
yes, apparently he had the watch repaired within 24 hours:

A few days later, he dropped off his GMT-C with the New York RSC who indicated "they have seen situations like this before, but that it is uncommon." Rolex indicated that the bezel insert is a press fit and held by the beveled edges of the bezel ring. g340 indicated that his visit to the RSC in New York was a "good experience." The watch was repaired in 24 hours and mailed back to him.


I have it posted at http://www.minus4plus6.com/photos/photo34.htm

-Sheldon

newyork
23.07.2009, 21:07
wow... very interessting page...

shows a lot of bad accidents ...

hope my rolex will never appear on your site ;)


greetings!

pelue
23.07.2009, 21:58
Thanks, Sheldon. Very good and interesting web-pages. :gut:

CEO
24.07.2009, 06:27
yeah, just seen the Hannes sent pictures of the Lady-DJ, nightmare 8o

Greetings